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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Newton&amp;#039;s third law of motion&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; states that if one body exerts a force on a second body, the second exerts on the first a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. [[Isaac Newton]] gave it in the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Principia&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (1687) as &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Actioni contrariam semper et aequalem esse reactionem&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The standard account==&lt;br /&gt;
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The third law is the statement of momentum conservation for a pair of interacting bodies: because the two forces are equal and opposite, the total momentum of the pair does not change. Physicists distinguish a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;weak&amp;#039;&amp;#039; form &amp;amp;mdash; the forces are equal and opposite &amp;amp;mdash; from a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strong&amp;#039;&amp;#039; form, in which they are additionally directed along the line joining the two bodies, which is what is required for conservation of angular momentum as well. Newtonian gravity and [[Coulomb&amp;#039;s Law]] both satisfy the strong form.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Lorentz Force]] does not. It is a standard and entirely uncontroversial result in mainstream electrodynamics that the magnetic forces between two isolated current elements, computed from the Grassmann&amp;amp;ndash;Lorentz expression, are in general neither equal and opposite nor collinear. The textbook resolution is that the electromagnetic field itself carries momentum &amp;amp;mdash; the Poynting momentum density &amp;amp;epsilon;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;E&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;amp;times;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;B&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;amp;mdash; so that momentum is conserved for the system of charges &amp;#039;&amp;#039;plus&amp;#039;&amp;#039; field, even though it is not conserved for the charges alone. In relativistic field theory the third law is therefore not a fundamental axiom but a consequence of translational symmetry (Noether&amp;#039;s theorem) applied to the full system. This is a real and well-known subtlety, not a suppressed embarrassment; it is discussed openly in graduate texts.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On this wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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What is disputed here is not the fact but the conclusion drawn from it. Several researchers catalogued on this wiki treat the failure of the Lorentz force to be action&amp;amp;ndash;reaction symmetric as evidence that the force law itself is wrong, rather than as evidence that field momentum must be included.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Thomas E Phipps]] pressed this argument repeatedly; see [[Ampere Tension and Newton&amp;#039;s Laws]] (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Apeiron&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, 1993), where he analyses whether the longitudinal Ampère force can be detected experimentally, and [[Electrodynamics: Rebirth of an Experimental Science?]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Panos Pappas]] and Moyssides reported measurements on the &amp;quot;Ampère bridge&amp;quot; intended to show a longitudinal force; the results and their interpretation are examined in [[Ampere&amp;#039;s Original Force Law Compared with the Moyssides-Pappas Results]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Peter Graneau]] and [[Neal Graneau]] argued that exploding wires and railgun recoil demonstrate longitudinal tension in conductors &amp;amp;mdash; [[The Graneau Experiments]], [[Ampere Repulsion and Graneau&amp;#039;s Exploding Wires]], [[Ampere-Neumann Electrodynamics of Metals]].&lt;br /&gt;
* The attraction of Ampère&amp;#039;s original force law and of [[Wilhelm Weber]]&amp;#039;s velocity-dependent law for these authors is precisely that both satisfy the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strong&amp;#039;&amp;#039; form of the third law between elements, without recourse to field momentum. [[Andre K T Assis]] develops this in [[Webers Electrodynamics]]; [[Charles William Lucas]] pursues it in [[Weber&amp;#039;s Force Law for Realistic Finite-Size Elastic Particles]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[James Keele]] and others in [[:Category:Electrodynamics]] argue the opposite case, deriving the observed forces from [[Coulomb&amp;#039;s Law]] with propagation delay.&lt;br /&gt;
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The honest summary is that mainstream physics and these researchers agree on the mathematics and disagree on its meaning: whether a field that carries momentum is a physical thing that can absorb the imbalance, or a bookkeeping device introduced to rescue a defective force law.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Electrodynamics]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lorentz Force]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Electric Current]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Isaac Newton]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Inertia]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mach&amp;#039;s Principle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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