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		<title>ClaudeBot: Add David de Hilster&#039;s &#039;The Impossible Photon&#039; argument: a single indivisible particle cannot carry a frequency, since frequency requires repetition over time; promote the singleness question to its own subsection and connect it to Robert de Hilster&#039;s procession-of-particles account and the Particle Model; note it in the &#039;single or many&#039; disagreement</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Add David de Hilster&amp;#039;s &amp;#039;The Impossible Photon&amp;#039; argument: a single indivisible particle cannot carry a frequency, since frequency requires repetition over time; promote the singleness question to its own subsection and connect it to Robert de Hilster&amp;#039;s procession-of-particles account and the Particle Model; note it in the &amp;#039;single or many&amp;#039; disagreement&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Mitch Emery]] derives photon emission from a dual electron spin, one component perpendicular to the other, in [[Electron Spin and the Emission of Photons]] (2007), and in [[What Experiments on Diffraction of Photons Say]] (2012) uses Panarella&amp;#039;s diffraction experiments against the wave-packet foundation of quantum theory. The idea that the photon has internal structure and can therefore &amp;#039;&amp;#039;age&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is tested by Ramalho Croca in [[Laboratory-Scale Test of de Broglie&amp;#039;s Tired-Photon Model]] (1997), which proposes a bench-scale experiment on de Broglie&amp;#039;s model of the photon as a real physical entity with inner complex structure that loses energy to the medium as it travels &amp;amp;mdash; and so offers a non-&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ad hoc&amp;#039;&amp;#039; account of cosmological redshift without a Doppler interpretation. [[Franco Selleri]] argues in [[On the Possibility of a Rationalistic Approach to Microphysics]] (1989) that the Einstein-de Broglie picture of duality can give quantum phenomena an understandable foundation, and reviews proposals for directly detecting the empty waves of photons and neutrons.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Mitch Emery]] derives photon emission from a dual electron spin, one component perpendicular to the other, in [[Electron Spin and the Emission of Photons]] (2007), and in [[What Experiments on Diffraction of Photons Say]] (2012) uses Panarella&amp;#039;s diffraction experiments against the wave-packet foundation of quantum theory. The idea that the photon has internal structure and can therefore &amp;#039;&amp;#039;age&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is tested by Ramalho Croca in [[Laboratory-Scale Test of de Broglie&amp;#039;s Tired-Photon Model]] (1997), which proposes a bench-scale experiment on de Broglie&amp;#039;s model of the photon as a real physical entity with inner complex structure that loses energy to the medium as it travels &amp;amp;mdash; and so offers a non-&amp;#039;&amp;#039;ad hoc&amp;#039;&amp;#039; account of cosmological redshift without a Doppler interpretation. [[Franco Selleri]] argues in [[On the Possibility of a Rationalistic Approach to Microphysics]] (1989) that the Einstein-de Broglie picture of duality can give quantum phenomena an understandable foundation, and reviews proposals for directly detecting the empty waves of photons and neutrons.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A minority position holds that the trouble is the &#039;&#039;singleness&#039;&#039; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;of &lt;/del&gt;the photon &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;rather than its existence&lt;/del&gt;. Besides Marquardt&#039;s photon bunches, the 2012 note [[The &quot;multiple photon&quot;, an alternative to the single particle photon.]] proposes replacing the single-particle photon with a set of homokinetic particles, on the ground that &amp;amp;mdash; unlike a single particle &amp;amp;mdash; such a set can be divided, which is what entanglement experiments appear to require.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;=== The singleness of the photon ===&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;distinct &lt;/ins&gt;minority position holds that the trouble is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;not &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;photon&#039;s existence, nor its lack of structure, but its &lt;/ins&gt;&#039;&#039;singleness&#039;&#039;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: that light is never one particle, and that &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;properties attributed to a lone &lt;/ins&gt;photon &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;belong to a &#039;&#039;group&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Besides &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Peter &lt;/ins&gt;Marquardt&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;&#039;s photon bunches, the 2012 note [[The &quot;multiple photon&quot;, an alternative to the single particle photon.]] proposes replacing the single-particle photon with a set of homokinetic particles, on the ground that &amp;amp;mdash; unlike a single particle &amp;amp;mdash; such a set can be divided, which is what entanglement experiments appear to require&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The most direct statement of the case is [[David de Hilster]]&#039;s, in &#039;&#039;The Impossible Photon: Why One Particle Can Never Be Light&#039;&#039; (2026). His argument is not experimental but logical, and it fastens on &#039;&#039;&#039;frequency&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Frequency is a measure of &#039;&#039;&#039;how often&#039;&#039;&#039; something happens; it is defined over a series of events in time. A single object that passes once therefore cannot have one. De Hilster puts it through an analogy:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{quote|One bus has no frequency. One particle has no frequency.|David de Hilster, &#039;&#039;The Impossible Photon&#039;&#039;}}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;A lone bus, like a lone particle, has &quot;no &#039;how often&#039;&quot;. Yet the standard photon is defined as a single indivisible quantum &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; assigned a frequency &#039;&#039;f&#039;&#039;, from which its energy &#039;&#039;E&#039;&#039; = &#039;&#039;hf&#039;&#039; and its colour follow. De Hilster&#039;s contention is that these two commitments cannot both be held: the quantity being attributed requires repetition, and a single indivisible particle supplies none. Physics has lived with the contradiction for a century, on his account, because &#039;&#039;&#039;the mathematics works&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; but a formalism that predicts correctly is not thereby a coherent physical claim.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;He notes that the obvious corpuscular alternative fails for a related reason. &#039;&#039;&#039;Newton&#039;&#039;&#039; attributed colour to the &#039;&#039;size&#039;&#039; of the light corpuscle; but size is a property an individual object can have, and frequency is not the same kind of property, so substituting one for the other does not answer the question of what is oscillating.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The resolution he proposes is the one his father &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bob de Hilster|Robert de Hilster]]&#039;&#039;&#039; had reached from the opposite direction in 2015. Light consists of &#039;&#039;&#039;many similar particles travelling together&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp;mdash; same direction, same speed, in formation. Frequency is then the &#039;&#039;&#039;spacing between successive groups&#039;&#039;&#039;, a real repetition in time, and colour is &quot;the literal rhythm of a procession of particles streaming past&quot;. Wavelength becomes the distance between groups and intensity the number of particles in each, so that both properties come from one picture without duality.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The property that could not belong to a singleton is thus relocated to the ensemble, where a frequency can exist without contradiction. This is the account of light developed as &#039;&#039;&#039;luminic motion&#039;&#039;&#039; within the [[Particle Model]] of [[Bob de Hilster|Robert]] and [[David de Hilster]], set out in &#039;&#039;[[The Four Universal Motions in Physics]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Principia Mathematica 2]]&#039;&#039;; see [[Light]] for its fuller treatment and for David de Hilster&#039;s parallel argument that the textbook picture of perpendicular electric and magnetic sine waves is a graph mistaken for an object.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;It is worth marking how this position sits relative to the two camps above. It is not the claim that there is no light particle &amp;amp;mdash; de Hilster&#039;s light is emphatically corpuscular. Nor is it the claim that the photon needs internal structure. It is the claim that &#039;&#039;&#039;the unit has been drawn in the wrong place&#039;&#039;&#039;: that what physics calls one photon is a description of a group, and that the puzzles of duality follow from having assigned a collective property to an individual&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Aether and medium-based photon models ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Aether and medium-based photon models ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Whether the photon has mass.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [[James Carter]], [[Jean Pierre Vigier]], [[Harold A Papazian]], [[William M Honig]], [[Patrick J Fleming]] and Hector Munera argue for a non-zero rest mass, in Vigier&amp;#039;s and Munera&amp;#039;s case as the explanation of the Michelson-Morley residuals; [[Ari Brynjolfsson]] argues for weightlessness as a quantum effect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Whether the photon has mass.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [[James Carter]], [[Jean Pierre Vigier]], [[Harold A Papazian]], [[William M Honig]], [[Patrick J Fleming]] and Hector Munera argue for a non-zero rest mass, in Vigier&amp;#039;s and Munera&amp;#039;s case as the explanation of the Michelson-Morley residuals; [[Ari Brynjolfsson]] argues for weightlessness as a quantum effect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One paper here is an explicit rebuttal of another author on this wiki.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Robert A. Kerr&amp;#039;s [[Light Is Transmitted By Photons]] (2010) opens by naming [[Glenn Borchardt]] and disputing his statement that light is not transmitted by photons; Kerr&amp;#039;s photons are &amp;quot;the smallest detectable mass particle&amp;quot;, detected and quantified by their pressure, which is temperature, and transferring energy to larger particles by impact.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One paper here is an explicit rebuttal of another author on this wiki.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Robert A. Kerr&amp;#039;s [[Light Is Transmitted By Photons]] (2010) opens by naming [[Glenn Borchardt]] and disputing his statement that light is not transmitted by photons; Kerr&amp;#039;s photons are &amp;quot;the smallest detectable mass particle&amp;quot;, detected and quantified by their pressure, which is temperature, and transferring energy to larger particles by impact.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;Single or many.&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Peter Marquardt]] holds that single photons are never observed and that what exists are coherent bunches; the &quot;multiple photon&quot; note replaces the single particle with a divisible set of homokinetic particles; most of the model-builders assume a single localised object.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &#039;&#039;&#039;Single or many.&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Peter Marquardt]] holds that single photons are never observed and that what exists are coherent bunches; the &quot;multiple photon&quot; note replaces the single particle with a divisible set of homokinetic particles&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;; [[Bob de Hilster|Robert]] and [[David de Hilster]] argue that a single particle cannot carry a frequency at all, so that light must be a procession of particles whose spacing &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; the frequency&lt;/ins&gt;; most of the model-builders assume a single localised object.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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