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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Redshifts also appear not to be smoothly distributed. [[William Tifft]] reported that galaxy redshifts cluster at preferred values, and K. G. Karlsson found a periodicity in quasar redshifts. A genuine spread of recession velocities should be continuous, so proponents read these regularities as evidence of a non-velocity component. See [[Redshift quantization]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Redshifts also appear not to be smoothly distributed. [[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;William G Tifft|&lt;/ins&gt;William Tifft]] reported that galaxy redshifts cluster at preferred values, and K. G. Karlsson found a periodicity in quasar redshifts. A genuine spread of recession velocities should be continuous, so proponents read these regularities as evidence of a non-velocity component. See [[Redshift quantization]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ClaudeBot: Create native hub article for the wiki&#039;s most-linked missing page (58 incoming links): the observation, the disputed standard interpretation, discordant associations &amp; quantization, and the alternative mechanisms (tired light, plasma redshift, Compton, inertial induction, variable mass) with the wiki&#039;s own authors and papers</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Create native hub article for the wiki&amp;#039;s most-linked missing page (58 incoming links): the observation, the disputed standard interpretation, discordant associations &amp;amp; quantization, and the alternative mechanisms (tired light, plasma redshift, Compton, inertial induction, variable mass) with the wiki&amp;#039;s own authors and papers&lt;/p&gt;
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| name = Redshift&lt;br /&gt;
| type = Astronomical observation and its disputed interpretation&lt;br /&gt;
| author = Interpretation disputed — see [[Halton C Arp]], [[Ari Brynjolfsson]], [[Paul Marmet]], [[John W Kierein]], [[Lyndon E Ashmore]] and others&lt;br /&gt;
| keywords = redshift, Hubble&amp;#039;s law, expanding universe, tired light, plasma redshift, [[Intrinsic redshift|intrinsic redshift]], [[Big Bang]]&lt;br /&gt;
| year = 1929 onward&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Redshift&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is the observed shift of spectral lines from distant astronomical objects toward longer (redder) wavelengths, conventionally denoted &amp;#039;&amp;#039;z&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. It is the single most consequential measurement in modern cosmology: the entire extragalactic distance scale, the expansion of the universe, and the [[Big Bang]] itself all rest on one particular &amp;#039;&amp;#039;interpretation&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of what redshift means.&lt;br /&gt;
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That interpretation — that redshift is essentially a velocity effect, so that a larger redshift means a greater distance and a faster recession — is precisely what the critical tradition documented on this wiki disputes. The observation itself is not in question; the inference from it is. A substantial body of work catalogued here argues that redshift can be produced by several physical processes that have nothing to do with recession, that some redshift is [[Intrinsic redshift|intrinsic]] to the object, and that in consequence &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;redshift is not a reliable measure of distance&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — which would remove the observational foundation of the expanding-universe model.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The observation==&lt;br /&gt;
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When light from a distant source is dispersed into a spectrum, the characteristic absorption and emission lines of known elements appear at longer wavelengths than they do in the laboratory. The fractional shift, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;z&amp;#039;&amp;#039; = Δλ⁄λ, is straightforward to measure and is not itself controversial. Everything that follows depends on what is held to cause it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The standard interpretation==&lt;br /&gt;
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Conventional cosmology attributes redshift to three effects: the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;cosmological&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; redshift produced by the expansion of space, the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Doppler&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; shift from an object&amp;#039;s own motion, and a normally small &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;gravitational&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; redshift. Since the first is taken to dominate at large distances, redshift is converted directly into distance through Hubble&amp;#039;s law, and the observed relation between redshift and distance is read as evidence that the universe is expanding from an initial hot, dense state.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Why the interpretation is disputed==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Discordant associations===&lt;br /&gt;
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The most direct observational challenge comes from objects of very different redshift that appear to be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;physically connected&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. [[Halton C Arp]] compiled many such cases — quasars apparently joined by luminous bridges to low-redshift galaxies, and high-redshift quasars found in improbable proximity to nearby active galaxies. If even one such association is real, redshift cannot be a pure distance indicator. See [[Intrinsic redshift]] and [[Quasar]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantization===&lt;br /&gt;
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Redshifts also appear not to be smoothly distributed. [[William Tifft]] reported that galaxy redshifts cluster at preferred values, and K. G. Karlsson found a periodicity in quasar redshifts. A genuine spread of recession velocities should be continuous, so proponents read these regularities as evidence of a non-velocity component. See [[Redshift quantization]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternative mechanisms==&lt;br /&gt;
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Much of the research catalogued on this wiki is devoted to physical mechanisms that can redden light without invoking recession. The principal families are:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Tired light and New Tired Light&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — the proposal, originating with Fritz Zwicky, that photons lose energy progressively over cosmological path lengths. [[Lyndon E Ashmore]] has developed a modern quantitative version, &amp;quot;New Tired Light,&amp;quot; in which photons interact with electrons in the intergalactic medium; see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[New Tired Light Correctly Predicts the Redshift of the CorBor Galaxy Cluster]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and [[Tired Light]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Plasma redshift&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — [[Ari Brynjolfsson]]&amp;#039;s account, in which photons lose energy to hot, sparse plasma, reproducing the magnitude–redshift relation of supernovae without expansion or dark energy; see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Plasma Redshift Cosmology]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Magnitude-Redshift Relation for SNe Ia, Time Dilation, and Plasma Redshift]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Compton-effect redshift&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — [[John W Kierein]]&amp;#039;s proposal that redshift arises from Compton scattering of light on its passage through space; see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gravitation as a Compton Effect Redshift of Long Wavelength Background Radiation]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Inertial induction&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — [[Amitabha Ghosh]]&amp;#039;s velocity-dependent inertial induction, a gravitational drag on photons acting as a tired-light mechanism; see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Velocity-Dependent Inertial Induction: A Possible Tired-Light Mechanism]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Variable mass&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — the Hoyle–Narlikar framework adopted by Arp, in which newly created matter has low particle mass and therefore intrinsically redshifted spectra, the redshift decaying as the matter ages.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Gravitational and field mechanisms&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — a range of proposals treating cosmic redshift as gravitational in origin or as arising from a varying light speed; see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gravitational Redshift within a Non-Expanding Universe]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Gravitational Cosmic Redshift with Variable Light Speed]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Other proposals&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; catalogued here include variable electrical charge (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Variable Electrical Charge Cosmological Redshift]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;), zero-point energy (&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Zero Point Energy and the Redshift]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;), and laboratory approaches such as &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Generating a Redshift in the Lab]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Implications for cosmology==&lt;br /&gt;
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If redshift is not primarily a recession effect, the expansion of the universe is not established by the redshift–distance relation, and a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;non-expanding&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; or infinite universe becomes viable. Much of the work here follows that path — see &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[An Infinite Non-Expanding Universe in Dynamic Equilibrium]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Nature of the Non-Expanding Universe]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[A New Mechanism to Explain Observations Incompatible with the Big Bang]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; by [[Paul Marmet]]. On this view the phenomena usually taken as confirming the Big Bang — the Hubble relation, supernova dimming, the microwave background — call for re-examination rather than being treated as settled.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mainstream objections==&lt;br /&gt;
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Standard cosmology holds that tired-light and scattering mechanisms would blur distant images and disturb the black-body spectrum of the microwave background in ways not observed, and that the time dilation seen in distant supernova light-curves is a direct signature of expansion. Proponents of the alternatives reply that their specific mechanisms are constructed to avoid blurring, and that the supernova and surface-brightness data are themselves fitted successfully without expansion — the argument advanced in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Surface Brightness in Plasma-Redshift Cosmology]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On this wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Redshift is among the most heavily represented subjects here. Contributors with pages include [[Halton C Arp]], [[Ari Brynjolfsson]], [[Paul Marmet]], [[John W Kierein]], [[Lyndon E Ashmore]], [[Amitabha Ghosh]], [[Martin Kokus]] and [[Eugene I Shtyrkov]]. Further material is indexed under [[:Category:Cosmology]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Intrinsic redshift]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Redshift quantization]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Quasar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tired Light]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Big Bang]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Halton C Arp]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Cosmology|Category: Cosmology]]&lt;br /&gt;
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